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[star wars: rebels]
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just starting season two
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shit's getting real with papa vader on the scene
Glittery Jim
this show any good? it's been on the periphery of my radar for a while but I'm wary
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did you watch clone wars?
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all my comparisons are clone wars-based
Rama
All my comparisons are Star Wars SAGA-based and it's literally "Star Wars RPG party the cartoon"
Rama
But with better characters than my players usually come up with
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... okay admittedly that works, it's a straight-up D & D party in space
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but that comes complete with the jedi hogging table time, quieter players getting talked over, and excess manpain outweighing subtler character development
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it's got a strong cast but they DEEPLY need more episodes focusing on Hera, Zeb, & Sabine
Rama
Hera & Sabine in Pitch Black 4: Live Free Or Pitch Black was pretty great though
Glittery Jim
I... watched the tartavosky clone wars
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season one was pretty simplistic, but it was entertaining and gave the show a strong grounding
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Glittery Jim
: not really much to compare
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watch the CGI clone wars! season one is a little ehhh but season 2 onward are REALLY good
Rama
I think Rebels started stronger than Clone Wars and will hopefully improve just as much
Glittery Jim
hm... I'll have to give it a shot thanks for the rec!
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the prequels we deserved tbh
Rama
No kidding
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like, Anakin's slow fall over the course of Clone Wars is EVERYTHING I wanted from the movies
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ESPECIALLY when contrasted with Ahsoka
Rama
Why is all the interesting character development and setting exploration in a sidestory cartoon instead of the feature films...
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well, to be fair, a character arc like a fall to darkness is just better series than movie material
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it has space for nuance
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but the later episodes that showed anakin & padme and the push and pull of their relationship? WOW
Rama
Step 1 to a good Star Wars love story: get a director who isn't George Lucas
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anyway, yeah, Rebels season one was better than Clone Wars season one, but it was, like, a foundation
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season two is starting off with a bang
Rama
Season 1 was pretty basic, yeah
Rama
The Shit Getting Real moments were incredible for a Disney XD show though
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so far the show is strongest when drawing on the rest of the universe - the episodes with lando, yoda, and tarkin were by FAR the best
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but otoh, I liked the focus on Lothal
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this is a low-level adventuring party with roots in the community and local concerns
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they can only do so much on their own
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ANYWAY back to watching papa vader turn up the heat
Rama
Barring the occasional assault on a Star Destroyer I definitely thought the stakes were appropriate to what they were going for, and lower-stakes Star Wars always catches my interest
Rama
Especially when they, as you're saying about season 2, start ramping it up and people get in over their heads
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red letter day, zeb had a line which disclosed information about his character!
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yeah I uh. there are a few times where I wish they had them up against smaller ships, because they just don't do justice to the firepower or even fighter power of a star destroyer
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but they want to go with "iconic vessel", I get that
Rama
Nobody knows any Imp ships except Star Destroyers and Shuttles
Rama
Plus you can dungeon crawl on an ISD
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XD true
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also, I REALLY like that they do use Rebel cell structure - Ghost, Phantom, & then the Spectre callsigns on missions
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makes me homesick for a fighter squadron game
Rama
I have been waiting for some of my PbP games to collapse to try and organize something for plurk frands
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o.o
Rama
Unfortunately I also swore I wouldn't just abandon games unless all of my players ditched, and I've got some tenacious folks
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OMG THEY'RE GOING FIGHTER TO FIGHTER WITH VADER, BABIES NO
Rama
Nice knowing you
sasuga sunrise
It's baby Firefly.
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I watch it religiously, even though I don't plurk about it much.
sasuga sunrise
It's better than TCW at its worst, but worse than TCW at its best.
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god vader can fly
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I'm not rooting for him but it's hard not to be impressed
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and his "fuck this snubfighter bullshit, just gonna do solo shield tower runs on the cap ships"
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that's the anakin skywalker i remember
Rama
Yeah it's also pretty much Firefly except actually actively resisting the government instead of being passive-aggressive at them.
sailor bii
oh my god it is star wars firefly
sailor bii
also man i need to start watching season two
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SUCH IMPROVED
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Hondo Ohnaka is magnificent as always