Beans
[umineko/big ass spoilers]
Beans

I found it
Beans
my sentiments on that whole mess
Beans
I mean it was all sad as shit but their plan B was blow up the island
Beans
and the whole witch's game being generally "Kill everyone until he gets it"
Quinneapolis
You're not supposed to think she was justified or in the right, just that she was tragic
Rama
Yeah there's uh
Rama
Well, let me put it this way
Rama
Beatrice is a tragic villain, but still someone intentionally playing the part of a villain.
Rama
There's a lot of forgiveness and UNDERSTANDING flying around in Chiru, but I think the Magic Ending makes clear that Yasu is fully aware of how fucked up the whole thing was
Rama
And that even if Battler was going to give them a get out of jail free card, that that sort of thing was neither deserved nor possible in the physical world
Beans
Well, yeah I understand that
Beans
I don't not think that Yasu isn't a sympathetic person no matter what they did
Beans
and very clearly did not deserve any of that
мσяgαиιтє ♥
i think it's important to understand as well that yasu herself ultimately did not want to go through with the golden land either
Rama
I appreciate three things in villains: having an understandable motivation, maintaining some level of self-awareness of their villainy, and being enormous scenery-devouring hams
Rama
Hence why I play Beatrice now
мσяgαиιтє ♥
the entire point of the roulette was to give someone, anyone, a chance to stop her and if no one did then she can resign herself to fate and flip the clock switch
Beans
Yeah
Rama
Yeah, she was kind of deadlocked with what she wanted to do, so she made things into a game where there were chances for various outcomes
Rama
"I want to live with someone I love" "but that's impossible, I want to die" "but what if everyone died and I got to write my life as whatever I wanted?"
мσяgαиιтє ♥
no matter what happened in the catbox, the one thing that always happens, without fail is that yasu chooses to die
мσяgαиιтє ♥
by destroying the island and creating the catbox, yasu can die without anyone ever having to know her secret
Rama
This is why Ep 2 and 6 have my favorite stories, I think
Beans
ugh
Rama
Since both are directly about Yasu's internal struggle and how she eventually resolves it.
мσяgαиιтє ♥
ep 2 is basically yasu cutting her heart open and bleeding all over the place
мσяgαиιтє ♥
beato and shannon :-(
Rama
Shit that makes me cry when I reread it:
Beans
Such as that big conversation on the beach
Rama
1) Magic Ending
2) Love Duel
3) Beato's Episode 2 Furniture Rant
мσяgαиιтє ♥
i just
мσяgαиιтє ♥
yasu screaming at herself that she's disgusting, she's garbage, she isn't even human
мσяgαиιтє ♥
that scene makes my chest physically tighten on a reread
Rama
Oh, and the last gameboard conversation in Ep 4 before the Tea Party
Rama
[youtriedsohardandgotsofarandintheenditdidntevenmatter]
мσяgαиιтє ♥
"my golden witch" fucking kill me where i stand
Beans
Yasu'a life is inhumanely fucking terrible
Rama
(er, before the Ange epilogue, I should say, that happened after piece!Beato and piece!Battler had their sin showdown)
Rama
If you look closely you can actually pinpoint the exact moment her heart breaks in two.
мσяgαиιтє ♥
which fucking episode is it where battler's like
мσяgαиιтє ♥
"i never made any promise with you"
мσяgαиιтє ♥
and beato just howls
Beans
Rama : Okay, that scene is depressing and infuriating as fuck to me
Beans
just. Beato's intense focus on Battler's "sin" and Battler's complete ignorance of it
Rama
That scene is reason #1 why if I ever made something that analyzed Umineko the way Umineko analyzes Higurashi, it would be about breakdowns in communicating with and understanding others.
Rama
Because that and Kinzo being Kinzo are like 100% the cause of all the conflict in this story.
Frozen Time
Umineko no Naku Koro Ni, or Sayo Yasuda Stars in Poor Communication Kills.
Rama
And it's not just poor communication
Rama
It's people not knowing how to speak on the same level as other people, how to translate their thought process into words that can be understood.
Rama
And vice versa, people not knowing how to listen
Rama
Maria, as usual, is a good microcosm of this theme
Beans
People Can't Words: The Story
Rama
She is absolutely brilliant, but can't communicate her insights on a level that anyone but Yasu can understand without a great deal of effort, and most people (especially Rosa) won't/can't put in that effort
Rama
And would rather just dismiss her
sailor bii
yup
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