LiberBEARian
I need to break up with this dude I'm dating.
LiberBEARian
Not only has he not seen Star Wars
LiberBEARian
He hasn't read Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings
LiberBEARian
What the fuck does that leave us to talk about, then.
nightmare.
. . . okay i was with him for one third of that
nightmare.
he's like. your age, right?
nightmare.
how does someone your age not know harry potter or lord of the rings
nightmare.
that's like formative pop culture shit
poliorketes
my girlfriend has not seen any of that/read any of that either
poliorketes
i don't know how she's survived. she hasn't even seen the fucking lion king
Val
I have the same problem with mine re: Harry Potter. He asked me if it was more important for him to watch a few shows I rec'ed him or read HP and I was like "HARRY POTTER, OBVIOUSLY!"
nightmare.
THE LION KING?
nightmare.
ARE YOU SERIOUS
spooky queer
he likes funk and ska, that's what i'm more concerned about
nightmare.
my wife likes ska :-( it's so distressing
LiberBEARian
He's about six months older than I am.
poliorketes
i know it's fucking ridiculous and pathetic 8(
nightmare.
okay that's the same age though
spooky queer
i'm so sorry
nightmare.
i appreciate your condolences
Val
he willing to read them though/
Val
Because that's a start.
spooky queer
yeah this will be the test
LiberBEARian
He apparently read the first three, and then stopped. Which in my opinion is even worse than not having read them at all
spooky queer
....
Val
I promised my bf I'd allow audio books
nightmare.
he.........
Val
The forth one is where it gets really good!
nightmare.
stopped
nightmare.
he stopped reading harry potter
LiberBEARian
I know.
poliorketes
hahahhaha
LiberBEARian
And I'm looking at him going
LiberBEARian
"Okay it's really hard to come from an outsider's perspective because these books literally made up about 40% of my childhood, so I'm not saying you must read these now,
LiberBEARian
I'm saying it's okay if you don't, but know that we may never see eye to eye on certain things because I have a fantastic knowledge of beasts and where to find them and you don't."
bluecanary
lol
bluecanary
it's. it's like not the same, if you read them when you're 20-30
nightmare.
i just don't understand how he didn't read them as a kid
omnomivore
Man, Tonje hasn't seen Wizard of Oz and a couple other classics, but at least she has cultural differences to blame.
bluecanary
you have to read them when you are 9 and holy shit your hogwarts letter could come next year
nightmare.
like i knew zero people who didn't read harry potter when i was that age
bluecanary
that doesn't mean he shouldn't though because he completely should and i agree with nightmare.
LiberBEARian
Yeah, I can tell him what happens in the books, but I can't express the agony of being 13 and waiting a year for the next book in the series, or standing in line at midnight, or
nightmare.
or READING ALL NIGHT AND CRYING ABOUT SIRIUS BLACK
LiberBEARian
reading the newest one in two days and then running into school on Monday to freak out about them with your friends
LiberBEARian
It seemed (I thought) like this shared experience of our generation, and I'm bummed he missed out on it
spooky queer
no it definitely was
spooky queer
and it's not just the harry potter thing, like i was saying, i think there are a lot of nerdy things you like that he isn't into
spooky queer
he's a different type of nerd
LiberBEARian
/nod
LiberBEARian
He's Math and Science nerd. I'm History, English, and My Little Ponies nerd.
spooky queer
also fantasy and scifi
spooky queer
and roleplaying
ᴀᴄᴇTʀᴀɪɴᴇʀ ĐɈ
Eh... on the other side of things, as someone who read his first Harry Potter at 22 years old, I can get what you guys are saying, but it was also a matter of upbringing, and personal interests so. Ymmv.
LiberBEARian
Yeah. Upbringing is a huge part of it - he was raised by first-generation immigrant grandparents who didn't speak much English
LiberBEARian
And I'm doing my best not to make him feel bad in the way I make Anne feel bad when she hasn't watched any movie ever.
nightmare.
wow
LiberBEARian
I don't go "OH MY GOD YOU'VE NEVER READ X??" or something, I just go "Okay we'll put that on the reading list and remind me to show you Star Wars before the newest one comes out?
LiberBEARian
*"
nightmare.
you're the worst
nightmare.
ever
LiberBEARian
Yeah that's how I roll
ᴀᴄᴇTʀᴀɪɴᴇʀ ĐɈ
Yeah, that's fair. Just thought I'd kind of poke my head in as the other viewpoint or whatever.
LiberBEARian
Nah, you've got an excellent point.
LiberBEARian
Did you enjoy reading HP at 22? I'm trying to figure how someone my age would take to reading it for the first time.
LiberBEARian
I don't think they'd garner the same enjoyment out of it, but I could be wrong. I really liked the Mark Reads Harry Potter blog where a guy in his 30s read the series for the first time
LiberBEARian
And how he moved gradually from "Haha this black-and-white tale of kids' morality is silly and weird" to "Oh god help I'm crying over fictional characters what is wrong with me."
ᴀᴄᴇTʀᴀɪɴᴇʀ ĐɈ
Yeah, I did! The writing holds up as charming and--adorable isn't quite the word, but welcoming and warm.
ᴀᴄᴇTʀᴀɪɴᴇʀ ĐɈ
It was very engaging and I'd probably have read more in a sitting if I hadn't been doing the Prime rental thing.
ᴀᴄᴇTʀᴀɪɴᴇʀ ĐɈ
There was a line in another book I read recently, where a teenage character was saying how an older one doesn't treat her like a child. He corrected her by saying he does;
ᴀᴄᴇTʀᴀɪɴᴇʀ ĐɈ
she's just under the impression that treating her like a child means treating her without respect. That is what the book's writing reminded me of.
LiberBEARian
Yeah, I was wondering if the writing would hold up to a more adult readership. But aaw, that's awesome to hear
ᴀᴄᴇTʀᴀɪɴᴇʀ ĐɈ
nightmare.
to my mind the first couple of books don't but right around the middle of prisoner of azkaban the writing kicks up a notch
LiberBEARian
That was my gut feeling too. When I heard he stopped at 3 I went "But 4 is where shit gets real!"
nightmare.
exactly
ᴀᴄᴇTʀᴀɪɴᴇʀ ĐɈ
Kind of like AtLA, which was definitely for a younger audience but never was dishonest or talked down to its audience.
ᴀᴄᴇTʀᴀɪɴᴇʀ ĐɈ
Oh, I have no doubt the books get better, but the first impression is still there as "good"!
coochie scarf
ah yes, the nerd/geek problem.
Lady Stardust
I love ska and haven't seen the Lion King either
Lady Stardust
also I was like thirty when I read HP, but to be fair i was like thirty when they were published
LiberBEARian
See, there we go. Dating this guy will be like dating Liz and it will be amazing.
Dᴇᴢᴀsᴛᴇʀ
just to throw my two cents in here, the HP books didn't start coming out until I was in college and that's when I got into them and I DID enjoy them a lot at that age
Lady Stardust
everyone should date me
bluecanary
i do think everyone should see the lion king and not out of nostalgia. it is a masterpiece of 20th century animation.
Lady Stardust
I'm often embarrassing in public but I'm awesome in the sack.
bluecanary
beauty and the beast also
LiberBEARian
Both are amazing, and Liz is adorable.
Dᴇᴢᴀsᴛᴇʀ
(though I can understand not having that younger, school age excitement over HP... not quite the same. but for me and my generation, that was with other series anyway, so I kind of get it /shrug)
LiberBEARian
Yeah. To me, the HP books were always special because I was turning eleven just when Harry was, and we grew up together. Removed from that context, I'm glad it still holds up well to adult audiences
Fuchsia Fox
I was... 16ish when the first book came out. I was so hooked it wasn't even funny.
I got a kick out of the fact that I was so close to the age that the main cast would be if you used the real world dates
batsquatch
Sadly I never got into HP. I was twenty. I can see how someone would like the books, I just compared them to too many books I read when I was younger. I like the HP fandom though.
LiberBEARian
It's enjoyable. I'd give it a try if you're ever interested, I had a good time and it seems like the older generations liked it fine enough. I don't know if that rabid obsessiveness will ever be rekindled,
LiberBEARian
but the world-building is top notch
BethampHATamine
They're great for adults, generally. My dad followed them just as avidly as me and my sister, and he especially loved reading them aloud.
coochie scarf
please tell me he did the voices.
BethampHATamine
He does not do voices. But he's a good narrator.
coochie scarf
damn. oh well.
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