Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:01 AM
All right plurk, let's have a short lesson in Taiwanese culture since a lot of you are anonymously having hissy fits.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:01 AM
Plurk is owned by a Taiwanese company (to the extent of my knowledge)
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:02 AM
Taiwanese use plurk like a tumblr. It's to share things related to news or fandom.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:02 AM
Very little to do with personal life.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:02 AM
^^^^^^^^^ important
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:03 AM
Culturally speaking - I am generalizing and stereotyping hard core but to give a general idea - personal problems are personal opinions about news and media are also a little difficult to convey...
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:03 AM
On a website with your name tagged to it.
Yon Fellow
@YonFellow
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:04 AM
I don't object to the anonymous thing as much as the fact that it's really not a very good anonymous thing.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:04 AM
Does this make sense? It's meant for people who would usually find voicing their opinion or asking for advice as embarrassing to ... well, be able to do so
at kharamagic
@zokiblue
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:05 AM
sorta like...tmi advice plurks?
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:05 AM
HAHA YES WELL. That's a whole 'nother issue entirely.
Yon Fellow
@YonFellow
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:05 AM
I mean, you can't even respond to your anonymous plurk anonymously
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:05 AM
Yes. That's kinda the intent
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:05 AM
No that's the point. Ah how to explain...
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:05 AM
You can ask a question or voice a simple matter and hope for second opinions
at kharamagic
@zokiblue
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:06 AM
It's okay if your closest friends know it was you, but it'd be hard for an outsider to figure out? And there's a slight wall of plausible deniability?
at kharamagic
@zokiblue
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:06 AM
/making shots in the dark
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:06 AM
Kinda..... lemme try it this way.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:06 AM
Extract anonymous wank most of us see on RPs and 4Chan and fuck knows what
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:07 AM
That's... an extreme but kind of
Yon Fellow
@YonFellow
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:07 AM
I dunno. I guess I understand the urge to make it anonymous but still only show up to your friends- since that means you don't get spammed with every anonymous comment ever- but it also means that
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:08 AM
It can be simple things like My mom is mad I didn't do my homework what do I do? <--- culturally this is super embarrassing and you do not discuss it
Yon Fellow
@YonFellow
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:08 AM
it's easier to identify you just by who can see it
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:08 AM
Right but... ah perhaps my point is not being hit right
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:09 AM
Thing is. You trust your friends to an extent yes?
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:09 AM
But sometimes you can't always talk about things with them.
peterparker exp
@motherfuckers
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:09 AM
no dude i get it
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:09 AM
Broaden the topic range, and you've got the purpose of this anon
peterparker exp
@motherfuckers
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:09 AM
tho uh i might be the exception since lmao taiwanese but still I GET YOU BRO
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:09 AM
HAHAHA BUT YOU ARE TAIWANESE I would... assume....
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:09 AM
YEAH HADHDKJLjadlsad
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:10 AM
No, because it doesn't exactly involve them
peterparker exp
@motherfuckers
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:10 AM
LMFAO STILL I GET YOU
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:10 AM
Giving advice, culturally is good
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:10 AM
Admitting you have a problem is not good
peterparker exp
@motherfuckers
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:10 AM
asking for advice on the other hand isnt
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:10 AM
Yeah.
peterparker exp
@motherfuckers
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:10 AM
to me i think its a pride thing??
peterparker exp
@motherfuckers
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:10 AM
at least frmo what i pick up from my family idk
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:10 AM
Yes, pride and honor
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:11 AM
And don't insult your family by saying you didn't do your homework
peterparker exp
@motherfuckers
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:11 AM
god taiwanese people
peterparker exp
@motherfuckers
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:11 AM
so lame
thepenguinred
@thepenguinred
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:11 AM
Honestly, I would be okay with the anon thing if it gave me an option to block them
at kharamagic
@zokiblue
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:12 AM
yeah, this makes sense.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:12 AM
But yes, this is VERY tied into culture and ... I can't quite describe it properly it's something I've experienced living here/host family.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:12 AM
But yeah to me, I'm like Oh, I was wondering when they'd do this. On the Taiwanese plurk chatter sites they have been suggesting it for a long time
peterparker exp
@motherfuckers
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:13 AM
i guess its liek a thing that people need to realize that
peterparker exp
@motherfuckers
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:13 AM
plurk is made to cater to taiwanese audiences first??
peterparker exp
@motherfuckers
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:13 AM
and this is a V Good thing for them to be able to be open in that way without having to disrespect themselves
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:13 AM
Yeah. Pretty much. But most outside of Taiwan don't even realize it's originally a Taiwanese site
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:13 AM
Si....
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:14 AM
But yeah. I'm not sure if this HELPS I think the system is flawed but just so people understand where they are coming from
JohnnyKage
@JohnnyKage
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:14 AM
It sounds like 'losing face' to me, from the abstract way I understand it.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:14 AM
Yeah... something like that.
JohnnyKage
@JohnnyKage
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:15 AM
To admit and to lose face and to bring... shame might be too strong a word. But something like that.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:15 AM
Like no. Seriously to summarize:
JohnnyKage
@JohnnyKage
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:15 AM
Asking something anon and getting advice while having at least some buffer is good.
peterparker exp
@motherfuckers
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:15 AM
im gonna pass this onto my plurk
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:15 AM
That's fine.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:16 AM
But yeah, I realize it's a cultural ... barrier? In a way but... I dunno. Just trying to help since a lot are looking at this and going Why the fuck
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:17 AM
IF I HADN'T BEEN HERE A YEAR AND A HALF I'D PROBS BE SAILING WITH YOUS BUT alas........ 我住在臺北
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:18 AM
HAHAHA ALSO some Taiwanese are like Wow the Americans really dislike this. Why don't they understand?
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:18 AM
It's cute. This is like a horrible case of cultural badminton.
JohnnyKage
@JohnnyKage
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:18 AM
I think there are too many people... who are from DW/RP/Tumblr and only see the bad side of anon.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:18 AM
Likely yes.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:19 AM
Also Can I just say that 150? Characters is like a mini essay in Chinese HAHAHHA.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:19 AM
YEAH WHICH IS BAFFLING TO ME.
JohnnyKage
@JohnnyKage
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:19 AM
I, personally don't like anon in general, but I understand not everyone is a douche and you can get a lot of things anon without attaching your name to something possible embarrasing.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:19 AM
OH. One more thing.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:19 AM
Taiwanese are super polite.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:20 AM
Think of it this way.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:20 AM
You plurk anon I HATE POTATOES
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:20 AM
And like 75% of your plurk LOVES potatoes
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:20 AM
They will probably be like Oh but I like it.... or something
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:21 AM
Chances are the minority will be like I AGREE but wow look at all of these people saying yay potatoes maybe I should back down since I can't be anon like this guy
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:21 AM
That's KINDA the other thought process
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:21 AM
Potatoes was a weird example I know but I am trying...
thepenguinred
@thepenguinred
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:22 AM
I can see the benefits from that end! Just as a person on here for rp, an option to turn it off is all I want
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:23 AM
It's being worked on, last I checked
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:23 AM
They estimate a month of testing, likely less if more feedback comes in
JohnnyKage
@JohnnyKage
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:23 AM
Basically, they don't try to go in and rock the boat and be contrary and start stuff?
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:23 AM
I just wish they would translate this stuff but I don't see any of it for English yet
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:23 AM
Exactly Kage
JohnnyKage
@JohnnyKage
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:24 AM
They don't have that sometimes obnoxious individuality that makes them feel their opinion is so important they have to say it. >_>
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:24 AM
YES
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:25 AM
If you really had an outlandish opinion you would keep it to yourself
JohnnyKage
@JohnnyKage
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:25 AM
I get it. I wish we had a bit more of it. /lays down
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:25 AM
Lemme also put it this way (although it appears yous have the point but) Taiwanese media Do. Not. Talk. About. Politics. Ever.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:26 AM
No news media. No newspapers. It is silent. Word gets around and speeches are recorded by media but nothing more is said on opinions
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:26 AM
They look at our presidential debates and go No way say what
JohnnyKage
@JohnnyKage
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:26 AM
But your last plurk you made I was like, Ahhh i get it. This solidifies what I thought though. So thanks for the explanation!
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:26 AM
I'M GLAD IT HELPS A LITTLE
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:27 AM
I dunno. I'm an outsider on this. But I have observed enough of these people to at least feel the flow of how this works. AGAIN I AM GENERALIZING
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:28 AM
But anyways um. Yep. I guess. If... anyone had a question I can try to er, help? That feels odd to say but... yeah.
JohnnyKage
@JohnnyKage
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:31 AM
You did good, I think.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:32 AM
Okay. Xiexie ni.
Yon Fellow
@YonFellow
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:36 AM
Yeah, have to agree with "It's a good idea if you add a block option."
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:38 AM
It's being discussed, if you want I can hunt down the links but it's in Chinese ;x
Yon Fellow
@YonFellow
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:39 AM
Yeah nope don't speak Chinese and definitely don't read Chinese.
Yon Fellow
@YonFellow
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:39 AM
@_@
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:39 AM
I am pretty sure they'll echo it onto English, but when things are more finalized
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:39 AM
They don't explain updates in English until the kinks are worked out in Chinese, if that makes sense
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:39 AM
They're focus is Taiwanese, not western users
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:39 AM
*THEIR wow yeah English you rock that boat
Yon Fellow
@YonFellow
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:41 AM
Yeah. Makes sense.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:43 AM
I just hope this sorta helps nyurr
JohnnyKage
@JohnnyKage
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:50 AM
I'd really like a version of this to replurk so I can stop getting infinite amounts of annoyance at the anon plurks.
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:50 AM
Want me to make a new plurk with a summary? AHHAHAH
JohnnyKage
@JohnnyKage
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:54 AM
Lol, that depends on you, since it'd be your plurk that was invaded with potential ridonkulousness and you can't mute it XD
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:55 AM
That's fine. I can deal. I'll redo this tomorrow then, sound good?
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:55 AM
I doubt complaints and misunderstandings will stop in one day (unsure)
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:56 AM
It really is a culture thing and a culture a great deal of the RP world do not get.
JohnnyKage
@JohnnyKage
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:01 AM
Yeah, because... /stares at RP culture and it's PA divisiveness... yeeaah
JohnnyKage
@JohnnyKage
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:01 AM
If you do, I will replurk it for great justice!
Alexceptional
@Aleeeeeeex
Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:02 AM
HAHA OKAY.
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